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[snakebitcat]

God damn.

People like this make me hope that some version of Hell truly exists.

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People are sick.

[theantichick.livejournal.com]

... makes me wonder if our society is even worth salvaging.

[miss-calamity.livejournal.com]

Hell's too good for bastards like that.

[ex-mitsou31.livejournal.com]

Not to say that what they did isn't cruel and sadistic, but...we live in a society where millions of cows and chickens are cooked up annually...and some of them live in the most hellish, tortuous conditions in order to make their eventual slaughter more profitable.
Should we be so surprised that some have transferred the same kind of sadism to animals that are not traditionally seen as food sources?

Well...

[theantichick.livejournal.com]

Not to say that cows and chickens deserve to be tortured either, but... there's a HUGE difference between the indifference of the corporate machine of livestock raising and slaughtering and a single individual taking delight in the pain and suffering of an animal, especially pain that individual is inflicting.

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[ex-mitsou31.livejournal.com]

I don't entirely disagree. I'm not ready to draw a straight line between the two. But I think a mean society that puts a low value on the feelings and suffering of animals will tend to encourage more of that.
When you are willing to brutalize some animals...it is a gateway to brutalizing others and a beginning of desensitizing people to greater brutality. Soon the same people think it's okay to kill off "criminals" and foreigners in countries we don't like as well.
The only cure for this sort of thing is to a change in culture, where we begin to have empathy for all suffering and stop sanctioning any brutality.

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[nearside.livejournal.com]

It's very different. Very.

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[theantichick.livejournal.com]

I'd make the point that neglect and all-out torture are quite different. Plus, please realize that this person more than likely has never seen a cow or chicken tortured unless he grew up on a livestock farm or one of his relatives worked on a farm or slaughterhouse. I'd daresay 95% of the meat-eating population hasn't a freakin' clue where thier meat comes from or how it's treated beyond the market they bought it from. It's not like raising livestock is a gateway to ritual animal torture and mutilation.

Both are bad, but the correlation ends there.

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[paladin256.livejournal.com]

but does being oblivious make it ok?

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[theantichick.livejournal.com]

No, that wasn't my point. She was making it sound like the horrible way we treat our cows and chickens is the reason that people torture kittens. That one leads to the other. I was pointing out that the argument is not supported.

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[paladin256.livejournal.com]

she was pointing out that it leads to indfference and disrespect towards life...or that it can.

if we can buther a cow? or squash a spider...why stop there?

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[ladydiana.livejournal.com]

People have been eating meat for 20,000 years or more.

People have not been tormenting animals for pleasure for 20,000 years.

Eating meat doesn't make one indifferent or disrespect life.

Someone stunning (i.e. - putting an electrified steel bolt through the brain of) and then butchering a cow is not the same thing as throwing a live, unsedated kitten on a grill.

The people that work at the beef factory did not torture that kitten. The people that are butchering animals for food aren't inherently disrespectful and indifferent. One very FUCKED UP piece of shit tortured that cat FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF BEING A JACKASS, and don't blame the death of cows, pigs, chickens, goats, buffalo, deer, quail, or what have you that are killed and butchered in as humane a way as possible on the torment of that kitten.

You are effectively trying to say that because humans can walk, there is water on Mars.

pissed off doesn't cut it, godsdamn right... >:-(

[prufrock.livejournal.com]

vile, unspeakable, filthy bastards (the killer and his friends, all of them). makes me want to find an animal-abuser-sized grill and put them all on it... then heat it up - s-l-o-w-l-y! pf.

[princessvespa.livejournal.com]

This is just sick. WHY WHY WHY??? Why are people like this?

[nearside.livejournal.com]

Dude, warn me next time. This just fucked me up.

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[prodigal.livejournal.com]

Sorry about that, Stephen.

Just try to remember in future that if you see some variant of the "make me hope that some version of Hell truly exists" phrase, it's bad.

[nearside.livejournal.com]

No, it's okay. I just react badly to stories like this. Which is a good thing. Any other reaction would be a problem. I'm glad it offends you so much too.

Damn.

It's things like this that make me realize that I put the rights of some animals above that of most people.

Sorry Prodigal,

[wymzie.livejournal.com]

Something about your post gave me a heads up...
I couldn't even bring myself to look at the link.
After seeing the comments, I'm glad I didn't.
Shudder